In this episode of The Well Dwellers Podcast, Erik Freiburger sits down with Bruce Callow for a rich and wide-ranging conversation at the intersection of music, memory, disability, and emerging technology. Recorded in the wake of a small but powerful gathering called ‘Remixing Reality’ at the Calgary Central Library, this dialogue explores how AI-assisted music creation can open new pathways of expression for those who struggle to find words—whether because of disability, aging, trauma, or simply the limits of language itself.
Bruce brings stories from decades of work in education, global justice, and community building, alongside his own musical journey—from punk and post-punk stages to facilitating songwriting workshops in seniors’ homes, immigrant communities, and across cultures and continents. Together, Erik and Bruce reflect on moments when music became a bridge: calming anxious bodies, unlocking memories, giving voice to prayers, and revealing identity in ways that surprised everyone in the room.
This episode doesn’t shy away from the ethical tensions surrounding AI and creativity. Instead, it asks deeper questions about dignity, embodiment, accessibility, and how technology—when held with care—might serve as a tool for connection rather than replacement. Along the way, you’ll hear snippets of songs born from these workshops and stories that linger long after the final note fades.
Pull up a chair at the well. This is a conversation about listening—deeply—to one another, and to the songs waiting to be sung within us all.
Chapters
00:00 Beginning Notes
02:32 About Bruce Callow
09:03 Discovering AI Music
12:09 Stories, Experiences, & Community Encounters
21:21 Concerns & Dangers
28:32 The Hope for and in AI creativity
37:44 Room for Improvement
39:09 Wrapping Up & Looking for More
41:58 Final Words
Resources:
Remixing Reality’s Event Entire Playlist: https://suno.com/playlist/3905363d-ec48-4322-9e37-257933d313de
Books By Bruce Callow:
Online Courses With Bruce Callow: https://www.create-learn.us/partners/bruce-callow-296
